Wednesday, 1 June 2016

ILLYRIANS are SLAVS part 2

part 1 link
http://fishcalledsanda.blogspot.be/2015/06/illyrians-today-are-all-lands-of-ex.html













ANTON VRAMEC - KRONIKA
sveti Hieronim doctor sloven
St Hieronimus was 
Slavic Doctor .

Bulgari i Iliri vazda imenuju Slaveni.
Bulgarians and Illyrians are called Slavs 
always .





















1740.г - Ivan Belosteneć,
Gazophylacium Illyrico-Latinum































Napoleon was impressed with Illyrian language and he said;
Superiority and ancienity of Illyrian language and need of many antic nations to speak this language is still being investigated.
Grammatica della lingua illirica compilata dal padre Francesco Maria Appendini delle scuole pie professore di eloquenza nel collegio di Ragusa,  Francesco Maria Appendini, 1808


privilegia per divos, imperatores, Leopoldum at Josephum


Glorriosissimae Reminiscentiae 
nec non modernam regnantem majestatem Karolom VI inclytae Nationi Illyricae 

privileges by the gods, emperors, Leopold and Joseph
Glorriosissimae remembrance
and the modern ruling Majesty Karol 6 illustrious nation Illyrian
Wienna, 14. aprila 1715. g. NATIONI ILLYRICAE







Petri Colinij, circa 1655. Illyrians are Slavs.


Slavic as Illyrian language includes Ruthenicam (Raethian, Rassian aka Etruscan) , Polonicam, Bohemian, Illyricam-Liburnicam, Dalmaticam, Windiciam and other minor related languages.
Slavic languages are Dalmatian and are Illyrian.






Petri Colinij, circa 1655

Illyrian alphabet by Ciril and Hyeronim.
Illyrian stands in line with Coptic, Persian, Armenian, Brammanic, Hebrew because it is one of the oldest languages of all times.






Jose Voltiggi, 1802 - Slavo-Illyrian languages.









Illyrian language is Slavic language, same as the Thracian language and the Phrygian language.
Celto-Scyths are also equated. 










Theologia moralis universa, Seguin, 1818.
Illyrians are Slavs in Serbia, Misnia (Mesia), Bulgaria , also Moscovites or Ruthenians (Raethians) who speak Sclavonic (Slavic)









Annales des voyages, de la géographie et de l'histoire - 1809.










Joachim Stull
Ragusani, from Dubrovnik
Lexicon of Latin-Italian-Illyrian
Ediotion from Budae ,Hungaria
(Budimpest, it was two cities before ,Buda and Pest)
1801.




The privileges of the people, to glorious Illyrian - Rassian people
of the Austrian Emperor Leopold, 1743g
Austrian Emperor Leopold is reffered to as Karol VI (Kralj 6)




Rud Veselić 
Illyrian - German Dictionary 
was published in 1853 in Vienna






The Old Testament is printed on the Slovenian-Illyrian language,
 pronunciation (dialect) Bosnian, 1831



5 comments:

  1. Dear Kasanda, regardless of what you think or believe, this story does not start in the 17th century. Everything you quoted is only a result of the way of thinking that was more or less generally accepted at a certain time (XVII-XIX century), especially in the "western parts". If you want to find out if the Illyrians were Slavs, you should "go" about 2500 years in the past and start from there. I also suggest that you read a book called "Genetika, istorija i bajke" (Archive.org, Issuu.com)

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    1. Off course it doesn't start in 17th century nor this is all I got from it, what I presented is that Europe knew very well who are Illyrians 300 years ago but they suddenly got amnesia.
      On genetics..It is latest genetics that show that our I2 and I1 is only real European inhabitant and it's concentration is amongst South Slavs.

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  2. Draga, nema potrebe da se pridružuješ načinu razmišljanja Balkanaca (uglavnom Srba) koji su razočarani manjkom slovenskih gena u svojim Y hromozomima i to žele da nadoknade silovanjem genetike i istorije. Ovo što slijedi je sarkastičan prikaz njihove "nauke" ili "logike":
    - Iliri su Sloveni koji su se zvali Iliri i imali su neslovenska vlastita imena i plemenska imena koja nijesu bila slovenska.
    - Iliri su Sloveni koji su na Balkanu (po Herodotu, Tukiditu...) živjeli nešto manje od 1000 godina prije nego je iko u Evropi i pomenuo ime Sloven.
    - Iliri su Sloveni koje su do XVII vijeka i srpski i hrvatski izvori/ istorijski dokumenti zvali Vlasima i dosljedno ih razlikovali od Srba, Hrvata, ili Slovena.
    - Iliri su Sloveni koji su imali (i imaju) očeve, djedove, pradjedove... genetski drugačije od ostalih Slovena.
    Ne znam da li se sjećaš onog crtanog filma u kom debeli mačak sriče natpis "B-e-n-z-i-n", a onda zbunjeno kaže: "Nekako čudno pišu reč voda?!"
    Naziv Ilir, ili rjeđe Iliro-Sloven je u XVII-XVIII vijeku bio opšta geografsko-jezička oznaka za ljude na prostoru nekadašnje Ilirije koji su u tom vremenu govorili slovenskim jezikom. Nije u pitanju etničko određenje.
    Pozdrav.

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    1. I'll give you short chronology
      -Anything Illyrian starts from Trojan refugee Ila-Rhea Silvia who swims to the other side of Adriatic and forms new Aelion (real name of Rome)
      -Kadmus (phoenician-venetian) creates alphabet for ILLYRIAN LANGUAGE and for millenias afterwards Illyrian is closely connected to a language people spoke. We are calling them Illyrians because we live in a world where land is equated to a language ,to a nation cause all of these became fake made states where nation means nothing any more.

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    2. As for Slaveni or in origin SKLAVENI it is combo of two different groupations, Scoloti(Scytians) and Veneti.
      We were Slavni or Glorious so this is incorporated in multiple meaning of Slaveni and third is Slovo-letter or literate which makes sense if you take in account that Phoenicians-Punians-Peoni-Veneti were and are SSlavic branche including today non-Slavic Romanians. It is genetics of I2 that is Trojan(place Lydia), Venet, Ant, Henet, Wendi or Vandal.
      Names are changeable parallel to alphabetic change.

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