Monday, 24 October 2016

VATIKAN in SLAVIC




Shiva Lingam is exhibited in Gregorian Etruscan Museum, Vatican City.
Shiva is ancient Slavic Goddess Zhiva (life) and what you see on the picture is egg - a life.
Zhiva  is also Slavic name for Mercury or "Messenger of Gods".
And here if you remember Amazon helmets with wings which are older then patriarchal Mercury as male or angel you can get clear picture of Herstorical line.
Her Story in Slavic means KCER STVORI or Daughter Created.
Kcer is found even in Tocharian as daughter in form of Cker.
Same word is Hittite for daughter etc
This is your Hera
This is also your Korai's or Kariatides, just daughters.
Now back to Dalmatia; DOTA is HER PROPERTY that is adopted by HIM in ceremony of marriage.
It is obvious that contemporary word for Daughter stems from "property" and not by living, breathing woman.
Slavs have Dushti in late development of the language too.
Dushti use to be a title of a princess or todays Dutchess.

Shiva Sharabha
Sharabha (Sanskrit: शरभ, Śarabha, Kannada: ಶರಭ) or Sarabha is a part-lion and part-bird beast in Hindu mythology, who, according to Sanskrit literature, is eight-legged and more powerful than a lion or an elephant, possessing the ability to clear a valley in one jump. In later literature, Sharabha is described as an eight-legged deer.

There you have once again WINGED creature.





I do not consider Sanskrit heritage of India but Sclavia - period.


Vatakin in sanskrit meanings;

वातकिन् vAtakin adj. suffering from wind-disease

वातकिन् vAtakin adj. rheumatic
वातकिन् vAtakin adj. gouty


Vatika in sanskrit, meanings;

vAtika adj. produced by or proceeding from disorder of the wind
vAtika adj. mad
vaTikA f. pawn
vAtika m. juggler or conjurer
vAtika m. man of mere words
vaTika m. pawn [ chess ]
vAtika m. boaster

http://spokensanskrit.de/index.php?script=HK&beginning=0+&tinput=+vatika&trans=Translate

winds of change?
farts?
what changes with winds? Arya or air of course...
वटिका vaTikA f. under vaTaka

under attack?
many people in EuroAsian mythology are named after WINDS or Veneti, Vendi, Vandals
such are Hyperboreans or Vitar Bura (wind Bura, north wind), maybe even Hitra Bura (fast north wind)
Jugo (south wind) is named after enormously old tribe that lived on Adriatic (before arrival of Venets who were Trojan survivors) - Eugani.
Levant or Dalmatian Levanat is old form of LIVO NA - to the left as Levant is to the left looked from Adriatic. Old Dalmatian form in not NA LIVO as today but LIVO NA. (to disbelievers check Dalmatian songs sung in dialect, preferably Gan Vejan or Pelashtina)


as V or H can be ignored in old Slavic you get ATA KAN.
AT is other Slavic word for horse, today a male horse or stalion.
But if you do not want to ignore V you get Vata Kan or CHASE or HUNT in slavic is VATAnje or HVATAnje.

Kan is horse in slavic but also ZENA (as whores are horses). As was always woman compared to a donkey, horse or mule--when she conceived a male or Jesus--he rode into Jerusalem on a MULE, remember?
In english KAN is KIN or born of a mother which is to be found back in Sklavic as Angelkin - kin means hers in slavic-- is alegedly a tribe that give name to England. In reality Angel-kin is Antas kin.

Ata known today as "a father" stems from epitet of ancient Goddesses in all cultures who's full name was ANTA.
Anta pronaunced fast changes T into K as in Ankh.
Anta is full name of Sumerian sky god today known as ANU or he god.
In Egypt is was NUT.
ATA eNA is Athena.
Diana is Dea eNa.
Anahit reversal as in eN 'aTa
Juno was Diva , as Thea or Dea Ata is same title, N is always present regardless of fleating wovels.

Juno or Juturna is a Slavic Goddess not just by obvious "morning star" conotation (juturna) but also with her name JUNO as a young calf - today called June.
She give name to a Moon Luna because Dalmatians call moon Lojna and all lights Luch, Loj (cow fat) to make Kandilo-oil or fat lamp, LUSTRA for the fish scales.
And here you can see that old representation of the Moon as Holy White Cow as Moon in Rig Vedas( Rich Veda- talking words in slavic) Riga is line drawn on a tree or carved on the rock. RISati means "to draw". Remember 
Π(P) is R and this is how you get todays word PISati (to write) instead. PISati is cognate to Pishati or to piss.
I said before that writing Goddess and women out of His Story is "pissing conquest".
Word "scrive" in "latin" means TO HIDE in Slavic.

In my archives there are images and carefully selected "scientific linguist" perversions they wrote over time which I'm gonna add later.


17 comments:


  1. I sent you two emails on your post, Sanda.
    And I just wanted to comment on this entry, I saw it before but didn't have time.


    This "lunar cow" from the Rig Veda... I've been working on these "lunar & solar cults" recently and most of it I see as a completely distorted bs.

    "Lunar cow" sounds like a later creation to me, cows are diurnal beasts, not nocturnal.
    If there have been some males (or females) which turned the cow - and the woman - into nocturnal animals, this doesn't change the fact that both were always asocciated with the Sun and solar symbology - and this truth still remains in our slavic language.
    As I see it, this feminine asocciation with the moon is really a recent one. It may have a couple of thousand years but it is NOTHING compared to the greatness and the antiquity of the SOLAR feminine cult which is probably as old as the Sun itself. I wrote about it in my earlier comment - the original female culture was 100% solar.

    Just look at the name for our slavic SOLNCE. N- and ce- are just suffixes. What remains is SOL. Sol- according to etymologists is a deformed SURA/ SURYA/ SVAR. Whatever it is, it is female. SURYA/ SURA is our CÓRA. In the east it is Sura, in western parts it is Hora/Hura, in Europe it survived in the form of Córa/ Kora (slavic Cow KOROWA).
    And SVAR.. - it's really our SWAR - VIRGO, SKWARKA / WARGA = slavic "pussy", SVARGA- name of the swastika being her symbol.
    So, you see, SOLNCE is really our Córa - a girl, a woman.

    Btw, there has never been a "lunar & solar swastika". The left and right spinning of the swastika is just about the opening and closing movement.
    The same with the alleged "invasion of solar male cultures". They weren't 'solar' at all, quite the opposite. It's a complete scum and the biggest psy-op made on woman's psyche. The Sun has been taken away from females and since then women started to asocciate themselves with the night, moon, darkness and complete passivity. And that was the goal.

    So, the Sun was the central point of our original culture, at some point the moon started to play a bigger role and with time they completely switched places. I have some ideas about how it all could have happened. I will write to you about it later, in private.

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    1. :) they have all been ours cause there was no one else to compare it with but biggest of all is dark matter behind, it's always womb that have first word and create something out of nothing

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  2. Do u actually believe that both were called like females just because there was nothing to compare with? So, why do u focus on the Moon only? And why do u believe that the names for the moon are older than the sun - when the opposite is true. Every name of the moon came from solar names.

    And you talk about black wombs and dark matter.. So, I encourage you to go ahead and find out what part of slavic language relates to ideas like darkness, night, nothingness etc.. You will find only a tiny percentage relating to such ideas. And the reason is simply - it was not that significant to our mothers, it was rather irrelevant.
    They placed the sun at the center of our culture because this is how reality works. They saw the cosmos as a space where whirls of matter/light can concentrate creating VIR-gins, and the Sun-Ra was at the center of it all. Now go and check how heavily our slavic language is based on terms relating to light, shining, warmth, sun, day etc. - it's huge. Slavic language does not exist without the sun. sWAR-WIRgo is just one example, like our cóRA-RA. Światło-Świat-Świadomość is another - the world was literally seen as Light-Światło, just like our consciousness, Świadomość.

    The moon was ignored, it didn't have any meaning. It started to have when women lost their parthenogenetic abilities. I will send you an email, I really have to convince you :) Also because continuing to associate women with darkness and similar ideas is simply psychologically damaging.

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    1. Sun was named after Moon starting from first writen records in Sumeria, Munus or Sin , Munus was also symbol for vulva as in birthing character of the Moon and Sin mostly as lunar temple, so Sun and Moon are both lunar names.
      Shamash for Sun sounds like our Sunce but old Slavic calls Sun Slantce and you can see both Sol and Sun and slant in this words.

      Nut as Noc/nok , nail/nokat wears lunar crescent, Nauk/science, I think you are confusing prefiks NE as negation with root words

      Svitlo/swiatlo is real word for light in Slavic but only root SIA/SJA, in Sviat is world and all-Sve/Sva/Vsa..

      hahha you made me chuckle when you said I associate women with darkness as negative, no I associate women with EVERYTHING...the life itself, this absolute power that does reside between living and the dead being able to regenerate over and over again is really only female thing.
      Including shinny stars like Sun :) They all have been Goddesses first, I have so much in my archives of old Solar deities as women you wouldn't believe, amongst them is Helios ,no doubt that in her time she was a woman, I have to post this yet, I keep some things for myself, far from all is at display here.

      But if you think Sun is first it is not, far from it. Lunar deity is old as prehistoric times while Solar deity appears in Egypt with Ra after Lunar eye was cast away cause there have been two eyes in begin. Aten is not a Sun.

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    2. SVARGA or swastika is not a Sun but a comet.

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    3. I think you haven't seen this one
      http://fishcalledsanda.blogspot.be/2013/09/swastika.html

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    4. Hello and sorry for my late response:)

      The cultures you are giving as the evidence for the "first written records", Sanda, were already patriarchal and have little to do with the original meanings and the matriarchy itself.
      They are also not as ancient as it seems, since male history timeline has been artificially stretched out to appear more ancient than it really is.


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    5. Give me your sources for this. Tell me what makes you think that Svarga (or Swastika) was not the Sun but a comet.

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  3. Sumerian S-IN is basically "S" plus "-IN" - "in" standing for our "On" meaning "he/ it" and the "S" refering to 'shining' - giving meaning of the "shining one", S-On/a.
    The one who is shining with its own light is always the Sun, and the "S" itself originally stands for the SOLAR snakes as the SOLAR rays.

    The "M" stood always for Mama first and Mother Earth, Ze-Ma. Moon, MONA is literally Ma-Ona (Mama-she) and MA always refered to the soil and planet earth.
    Germanic MOND for example refers to the Moon but the same name in latinic, MONDO - refers to 'world' as the Planet we live on. Names like Mundial or Mundane mean "earthly" things.

    So, none of them are lunar names: S-IN with its Ssolar snakes comes from the Shining Sun - and M-OON with its Ma has been taken from mama Ze-Ma.

    The idea of a small satellite taking its name from the sun or the planet is really more plausible than the opposite. I can't imagine our great star Ra/Córa/Ma-Ra or our mother Ze-Ma taking their names from a little insignificant planetoid which isn't even able - neither to generate light or to support life on its own.
    You also have to consider that there are many myths which tell us that the current moon hasn't been always here - the astronomers themselves consider the moon as an alien body being caught at some point in time by earthly gravitational field and becoming her NEW moon.


    SHAMASH doesn't sound like our SUNCE at all. I'd have to be very drunk to mix these two names, they are completely different.
    In arabic MIŚ'al signifies 'light or fire torch', in turkish it's MEŚ-alesi meaning the same.
    ŚAMAŚ was in fact also called with this single stem: MAŚ-MAŚ or MASSU, so the meaning of its name lies probably somewhere there.


    SUNCE and SOLNCE are also two different names, SUN and SOL. You are just mixing two different stems and suffixes :)
    SUN-ce is SUN/SIN with a suffix "-ce". In belorus. it has "-ca" at the end and their Sun-ce is SUN-CA. But the core is always S+N, SIN/SUN (Sina).

    In "SOLNCE" the main core is SOL. In Italy sun is still called SOL, SOLE.
    When "-on/en" has been attached to it, it became SOLEN - which exists still today in danish name for the Sun, SOL-EN.
    When another suffix "-ce" was added, it became what we have now in slavic - SOL-EN-CE, Solnce.
    But the original core is SOL, SOLA - which is our deformed SORA/SARA.
    Some languages have kept this form with the original R:
    in romanian Sun as SOARE
    in ossetian as HUR (Hura)
    in friulian SORELI (italic SOR-ELLA "girl, sister")

    In slavic this SORA/HURA still exists in the names for "star" or "light" and many others:
    belaruss. ZORKA, ZORA - "star"
    ukr. ZORIA
    polish RA-NO "morning"
    The presence of pseudo-egyptian RA in RANO is so obvious but nobody sees it.

    Our CÓRA is not the original form though, it's either VARA, SVARA or SARA (or RASA). In semitic SARA means "woman". In arabic/persian ZORHA, ZAHRA means "shining" and is a popular female name. All this is our SOL-nce=SOL=SORa.
    "RA" itself means just "she" - in italic "La, Ella" means "she, her".
    This degeneration of R into L occurs so often and it ruins everything.



    The proper form of Światło was ŚWIT (without -lo) and you are partially right, because also Śvit is not the original form either.
    But you ignored completely what I said - of how strongly rooted is the solar cult in our slavic matriarchal culture.
    The very process of BIRTHING in slavic used to mean SOLAR SHINING, literally. We find it in ROŻIĆ which is another, older form of RODIĆ - to give birth. ROŻ-ITI is really RAZIĆ and comes from RAZ (RA-SA) which is solar ray.

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    1. Another example of the solar "R" degenerating into "L" which I discovered some time ago: just look at the first "semitic" letter, ALEPH. It refers to Cattle, OX.
      ALEPH, ALEF is germanic C'ALEF = CALF - having the same meaning.
      But only when we turn the L back into its original form (R) we will see it is really ours and it can be ONLY feminine:
      take the danish form of Calf: it's KALV, KLV. When we switch the L into R - we have KRV, K-R-V which is really our KO-RO-VA.


      The etymologists say that germanic CALF, KALB is cognate to sskr. GARBA - meaning Womb.
      GARBA - KARVA - KORVA, KOROWA - that's exactly what GARBA is - the Womb represented as the head of the cow.

      The "semitic" Alef is really our Slavic KOROWA, the solar cow.
      The R is so important, it is much older than L. L conveys nothing, R vibrates.

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    2. Slavic root of Sun is SLaNTCe -shorter version is SoLNCe - connected to SALT - i also see SLANT in this word.
      I know all ancient Solar Goddesses are women but Moon is primal IMO because already in prehistory you can see too many horns with 16 notches which stand for Moon and monthly periods thus life.
      Maybe you do not see things like I do but to me -darkness=huge, light=speck on the dark all.
      Observing stars started from very long ago and all was dictated by movement of stars so they knew their life depended on NIGHT sky, not day cause this one doesn't allow to see the signs of when fish is easy to catch or none at all, time for sowing the crops, what time of the year is - Cassiopeia, what day in the month is - Moon, night is clock of earthly rhytms, not day. Besides in oldest writings day begun with appearance of Venus/Danica.

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    3. Sanda, what we call the "monthly period" is actually a physio-pathology, and it can go away very quickly with some major dietary changes.
      In a healthy female, if she is not pregnant, the endometrium of uterus gets re-absorbed by the body after the ovulation. A woman may still have a slight vaginal discharge but she definitely shouldn't loose litres of blood. Bleeding is never, ever a sign of health or a norm.

      This patriarchal rabbit hole goes much deeper that we think because males took over the medicine and food industry but this topic is too long to discuss it here, so I will just leave u a couple of links. Please, educate yourself, a healthy female should never lose her precious blood.

      http://ecologos.org/menses.htm

      I recommend you to read some more articles of this guy. He is the only man I know that made the connection between the male sex and pathological flesh eating and hunting:

      http://ecologos.org/chimphunt.htm

      Regardless of how we are connected to the primates or not, our natural diet should be min. 80% fresh fruit. Periods on such diet stabilize, you don't have menstrual pains no more, no PMS, and depending on how much fruit you incorporate into your daily eating, your periods will last 1 to 3 days and will be very light. If u switch to 90-100% fruit they will mostly stop, maybe a coule of drops at maximum. You will still ovulate and be fertile, only the unhealthy hemorrhage stops.

      http://ecologos.org/cleansing.htm

      Also read his article about the Calories, it's a complete male nonsense obviously, related to Parr stove but not to human body.

      Dr Raymond Bernard wrote about the menstruation an entire book:

      https://books.google.pl/books?id=a82UXcSRzMsC&pg=PA59&lpg=PA59&dq=menstruation+pathology+raw+food&source=bl&ots=nLWlm9GmXV&sig=SiE3NoLdw9eiKuLdI3oVwnIIbhg&hl=pl&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjUzZ2RhfPYAhWDJlAKHfFCAG8Q6AEINjAF#v=onepage&q=menstruation%20pathology%20raw%20food&f=false

      This is a nice summary, too :
      http://www.whale.to/a/menstruation3.htm

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  4. Here is something I am not particularly interested in and I found it just by accident but I'm glad I did.
    Earthly water tides as being produced by internal mechanisms of ocean currents and the earthly Coriolis force - having absolutely nothing to do with the moon, being completely out of sync with the moon movement or its periodicity, just like I expected.
    I really advise you to have a look on this, it's been also published in a peer-reviewed science magazine and it's really worth reading, also the comments below:

    https://mephi.ru/communication/forum/talk/forum13/topic5498/messages/

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  5. As to your SLANTCE, SLANT and SALT:

    SLANT is our SLANIT, SŁANIAĆ się, (s-sk/k) SKŁON, U-KLON.

    SALT /Sale stems from Water, Sea (SAL-OS, SARA, SALI-VA, SAIL, O-ZERO <- water/ flow etc.).
    Words for Water/flow stem from solar names.



    As to your SLANTCE..
    Oldest written form, OCS is:

    *sъlnь +‎ *-ьce, SLunice

    Baltic cognates include
    Lithuanian saulė,
    Latvian saule,
    Old Prussian saule

    IE cognates include
    Latin sōl,
    Welsh haul,
    Ancient Greek ἥλιος (hḗlios), Sanskrit सूर्य (sūrya) / स्वर्

    I just copy-pasted it.

    You can clearly see that the stem here is S-L/ H-L
    and sanskrit has retained the proper form with S-R: SURA/ SURYA.

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  6. Continuing the topic of the solar/lunar cults;
    There is something I should have mentioned before, but it struck me only just recently.

    The moon by the ancients was not really perceived as a "moon", not at the beginning, they perceived it as a second Sun - the 'moon' was another star for them. The way we perceive the moon today as a "satellite" was non existing in the early times. We know this from the native american oral tradition (Aztec or Maya) and from the biblical apocryphs (book of Baruch) - it is said that this 'second sun' used to be as bright as the sun but bigger than that and its orbit was longer than just 4 weeks (either longer or shorter, one of the two).
    For the moon to be brighter than today, it would need an atmosphere. How it lost its brightness is described by the bible and the Natives as anger of a god or as the result of a conflict between the gods.



    The "prehistoric horns" that u mentioned that were "too many" - we don't have 'too many' of them, Sanda, in fact we have just one horn and it's Venus of Laussel - it mysteriously fell off a rock wall right in the hands of a male explorer.
    13 lunar notches and 20.000 years old, although it's said by the ancient myths that lunar orbiting period was different before and 20.000 years ago the moon wasn't yet in our sky. And the "menstrual cult" being so ancient but only one lunar horn being found just by accident? Nothing holds water here, nothing.
    Notice also that the horns as such refer just to the ovaries first and foremost, and their name (as HoR/KoR/SaR or RoG/RoS) are completely solar - they are just another solar snakes.


    The Venus as Danica - the problem is that Venus, moon and sun were called with the same names in older times. It is understandable, almost all the names were solar names before. Danica is Den, Day and D/S is solar.
    The Sun/ Sunna was also called ŚWAR(a), when broken it gives us "Shining Pussy" or "Shining boiling water" (war) - this is what the Sunna really is, 70% of her is Hydrogen, which turns into Helium - and this transmutation creates electro-magnetic wave, which is light. Hydrogen is the first element, first form of matter, so matter -and everything - IS basically created by the stars.

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    1. As to me confusing the N stem with negation - we didn't have N stems, Sanda, most of the N stems - with few exceptions - came from the V. I realised it some time ago, I didn't know how deep it all goes.
      Night as NOC or NIC is no other than our NICI - Nici is Nitka, Threads. NICI itself is deformed WICI - meaning Twigs, Hair or slavic Bić/Wić/Witki. All this is, of course, refering to solar rays.
      Instead of seeing the Night/ Cosmos as just blackness, try to imagine it more like this:


      https://es.123rf.com/photo_18766610_the-multicolored-yarn-used-for-knitting-clothes.html?fromid=LzVBYThDTlJWcFNsWkptY21ORkd2dz09


      I see them as interwoven.
      Notice, that solar rays do not stop at the edge of the solar system, but travel continuosly in the cosmos, weaving the space into being. We may see them as black because our eyes can't perceive all the electro-magnetic solar spectrum. But our mothers knew what it was. They were the ones who called the Night/cosmos as Witi/hair/Snakes and all snakes can be only solar in nature. In other words, the Night was the "woven one" - woven from solar rays creating what we call "kosmos".
      (I also suspect that planets used to be stars before they burned out and cristallised into solid matter.)

      Knowing this - nobody forbids u to use the constellations in the night sky for navigation or even the moon as a sky calendar, you can use it, it's ours! It has never been "this or that", it was more hollistic - and definitely it wasn't primitive, just look at the sanskrit scriptures, the knowledge is stolen and distorted but we can still see the high level of it, knowledge of quantum physics, of flying Vimanas, the astral worlds and so on.

      And there is basically one concept underlaying all this when we look at it - MATTER has been always seen as the MOTHER, and Light was always the Daughter. Everything else are just smaller details.

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